| shillllihs 6,101 posts
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 | 6/13/2016 10:20:32 PM 
 Well you're both right. You might make 300% but unlikely to put as much coin as you would
 if not using options. So either way comes out about the same.
 
 And yes Tvix will initially run more than Tmf at the start, but I think Tmf will come close or outperform
 Tvix. Look for 2 months of fear, with a Xiv run mixed in early on.
 
 Yes, IFT would have kept you in, maybe scaling out is a smart way to play. And starting with a small intitial
 investment, like 10g may be the way to go to give you the ballz to go all in.
 
 
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| shillllihs 6,101 posts
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 | 6/15/2016 12:29:26 PM 
 TMF
 107.69 Up 1.82(1.72%)  & TVIX down 5%
 
 Let's see if Tmf catches up with the Tvix move.
 
 
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| Mactheriverrat 3,173 posts
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 | 6/15/2016 2:49:37 PM 
 TMF  up over 12% since 5-31-16
 
 Watching pair's   LABU and LABD
 
 LABU turning up as LABD turning down.
 Just saying!
 
 But what do I know!
 
 IMHO - I'm not crazy about weekly anything on a daily chart. Not saying it doesn't work but I'm not sold on it right now.
 XIV looks to be turning up.
 
 
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| shillllihs 6,101 posts
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 | 6/15/2016 3:31:47 PM 
 Thanx Mac. Your input is always appreciated.
 
 Imo. we are going to see some fear, followed by all time highs starting around Sept.
 
 
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| ahcsim72 151 posts
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 | 6/15/2016 4:56:56 PM 
 6/15/2016 12:29:26 PM
 
 TMF
 107.69 Up 1.82(1.72%) & TVIX down 5%
 
 Let's see if Tmf catches up with the Tvix move.
 
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 This is only if someone is investing in them for a long term.  I trade and I move in and out of them constantly.  I've already moved out of TVIX and is in TMF.
 
 
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| ahcsim72 151 posts
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 | 6/15/2016 6:28:57 PM 
 $TVIX ready to POP tomorrow...
 
 
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| ahcsim72 151 posts
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 | 6/16/2016 9:28:27 AM 
 $TVIX..Up over 9% in pre market
 
 
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| Mactheriverrat 3,173 posts
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 | 6/16/2016 2:23:39 PM 
 Well my idea sure turned south. TMF is still doing rather well . Guess I need to not jump the gun so often and make trend  change calls.
 
 Live and learn.
 
 
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| shillllihs 6,101 posts
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 | 6/16/2016 3:58:15 PM 
 TVIX	03:50pm EDT	3.0699	-0.1801	-5.54%	3.03	3.78	88,869,428	44,921,300
 
 TMF 03:47pm EDT	108.6656	+1.6756	+1.57%	108.137	111.24	125,275
 
 Catching up. Should be a steady climb but, if Tmf/Tvix is up tomorrow and daily CCI(14)
 dips under 100, I may flip for a while to Xiv until IFT(2,1) dips under -.90 then back in TMF.
 
 
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| shillllihs 6,101 posts
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 | 6/16/2016 4:28:27 PM 
 You can go to collective2 under Greed, to see a profile pic
 of my old azz with my wife taken today in Zakynthos Greece.
 
 
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